Episode 24 – Signal Chain Series: Uncovering the Power of YouTube Influencers

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0:08 Welcome to the Pedal Collaborative Podcast. We're so glad you're here. 0:20 Hey everybody, welcome back to the Pedal Collaborative Podcast. I am your host, Alan Johnson, with a very special guest, Robert Paulson. 0:29 What? Wait, who is Robert Paulson? 0:31 Why does that name mean something? Why does that name ring a bell? 0:33 That's the question. Oh, Fight Club. 0:35 So Fight Club. Yeah, Fight Club. 0:37 Well, the first rule about Fight Club is you don't talk about. I don't know why I woke up this morning with the name Robert Paulson in my head, but. 0:45 Were you thinking about Fight Club? I'm not sure. 0:48 I'm not sure, but no. For those of you who have just tuned in for the first time ever, welcome Alan here with my Coast Co 0:54 host Paul. Yes, apparently we're just doing a Fight Club intro in the year 2025. 1:00 We had some technical difficulties today, so Alan's totally in a loopy space too. We have. 1:04 To have there's. Difficulties so. 1:06 Yes, yeah. Which is hilarious because I work in pro audio and I can't get a damn medical. 1:12 Store so. It's it's wonderful. 1:15 It's wonderful so. Yes. 1:18 Paul, have you been? I am good. 1:20 I'm I'm doing good. I'm excited that we're we're, we're doing another episode that people have asked for. 1:28 Yeah. Which is fun. 1:31 So yeah, how about you? You're doing good. 1:33 I am, I am. It's been a, you know, it's been a good week. 1:36 It's been a lot of week. Celebrated a, a, a day of birth, you know, this. 1:41 And since the last recording, more importantly, I got a new guitar. Yes, you did. 1:48 You got a Yeah, another telly to add. To the table. 1:51 I did, I did. And I'm, I, I think I'm going to make some videos on it because I really like it and I played a, a 2:00 bit more of it last night and, and really I'm, I'm enjoying enjoying it. And for those of you who who are dying to know, I got a Fender American Vintage 277 Telecaster. 2:11 And the reason I did that was for two reasons. One, I really want to try out the Cuna Fey pickups that Fender has been touting having remade the 2:19 last couple years. And this is my first chance to get that. 2:22 But also I I wanted a rosewood neck and that's what this one has. You know, I guess about a year and a half or so ago, Paul, you and I went down the whole of me 2:31 wanting every guitar possible. And you, yeah, you telling me no for so many of them because they just weren't me. 2:38 And I appreciate that about you because you know what is me? But it also helped me accept and embrace that I am a Telecaster with a humbucker in the neck guy. 2:48 And I am, I am perfectly fine with that. So I now have two. 2:51 Yeah, one with a Maple neck, one with a rosewood. Different pickups. 2:54 Different pickups, but good guitars. Yes, absolutely. 2:58 Yeah. So, and you know, as of recording today at about 10:00 AM Eastern Time on the 18th, Maris has yet to 3:06 release their new product because they're still sleeping over on the West Coast. But I feel so confident in what it is that they're going to be releasing that I'm, I'm willing to to 3:17 possibly put egg on my face and say what I think this is going to be that they're going to release today knowing that that the episode will drop tomorrow. 3:25 Does that make sense? Yes, that does make sense. 3:29 Do you, do you think that? Would you like us to to, to attempt to guess? 3:34 I'm not going to guess, even though you know what you can, I feel like you can tell your, you, you did figure out something and I think you're, you should just go for say sharing that Now that's 3:42 going to be out by the time we do this. The nomenclature might be different, but I'm also pretty sure it won't be. 3:50 I'm pretty damn sure that Maris's has just dropped or about to drop or yesterday dropped their third modular in a box pedal and this one being the Enzo X. 4:03 If I'm right, then yay, if I'm not then what the hell guys? Yeah, well, so your reasoning behind this is the little star Compassy looking O on the Enzo on the 4:18 original yellow pedal has appeared in all of the promo they've done of whatever the new thing is, which I had not noticed because I had frankly had not looked that close. 4:28 And then I was like, Oh, yeah, it's definitely that. Once I saw that, oh, everywhere. 4:31 Double frankly, I had not looked that close either, but I had seen comments on social media saying that, kind of pointing it out. 4:39 And then I was like, yeah, but you know, also I've just been, I've wanted it so. Well, it also makes logical sense to go I mean, they have the Mercury X, the LVX and the other 4:51 pedals like the auto bit and the Enzo and the Hedra all sort of lend themselves to being in a modular together of like weird funky things. 4:59 Yeah, I also would I would also love that because of the fact that I like all those pedals individually. 5:06 But my biggest beef with them is not knowing where the parameters are 'cause there's no screens. So having all those with screens would be very cool. 5:13 Yes, yeah. And, and I'm, I'm just imagining. 5:16 I'm just imagining. But we'll stop imagining, and we'll wait. 5:19 Yes, we'll be able to talk about it soon, so. But. 5:23 So let's get into the episode because we are doing a revisitation of our introductory signal. What do we call it? 5:30 Signal chain series. It was signal chain series and that's what we start out with an amazingly Paul. 5:34 That was like 20 episodes ago. We started 20 plus. 5:37 It's been that many. We're like almost at 40, aren't we? 5:41 No, that's no, we're not. No, no. 5:43 OK, no, I think this is 24. 34 I don't know. We're not at, we're. 5:49 Not Does anybody know what episode is? Yeah. 5:52 But yeah, so that is it has been a while. I'm actually going to look how many episodes, right, right. 5:58 Or this episode. This is episode 24, so not near 40 at all. 6:02 Not near 40. But actually, you know what? 6:05 After the next episode will be closer to 40 than it was 0. So OK, we are now. 6:11 We are now, but that's also hard to say for the next ones. Yeah. 6:15 Let's talk about the. Let's revamp the OR, you know, revisit I. 6:18 Love, I love I love the organization of our brains on this episode so far, yes, so. It's so far, it's so good. 6:23 We've lost so many listeners. At least I'm not drinking my iced coffee on air this time. 6:28 Yeah, so. Hopefully you know, our our our listening bases is people that you know, fall somewhere in the brain 6:35 waves between the two of us and they're like, man, somebody gets me here. I'm not sure which one it is, if it's both or neither, but I feel I feel. 6:44 I feel, I feel. Somebody does. 6:46 All right, so we are getting into a redux of the signal chain series, but and actually kind of out of your signal chain, but also omnipresent in your signal chain. 6:57 We're talking about power today. Yes, yeah. 7:01 Which I was glad you had this idea and that people requested doing something like this because I'm a big nerd about power actually, and wanting to make sure it's good. 7:09 And you want to kind of introduce the origins of this idea? Sure, sure. 7:14 I was on Reddit and had seen someone kind of ask how how like the YouTube influencers you know made their content with such clean audio. 7:25 Guitar influencers, to be specific, and a lot of people you know, threw their ideas down, some of whom make content for social media, some of whom do not. 7:37 But you know, one person had said that three things that are most likely happening when it comes to content on YouTube, Instagram, whatever from from said influencers. 7:46 One being most likely using amp modelers, not real amps I. Was gonna say, that's a really big factor actually, 'cause once you introduce a real amp, there's 7:55 all sorts of weirdness that can occur even if you have the most clean power in the world, just because of how it works. 8:02 Right #2 it's cleaning the signal up either in, in pretty much in post or #3 having and this one they, they were referring to a clean power source. 8:14 So in this in this instance, the reference was to clean power coming out of your wall. And then that that kind of trickled into a multi faceted conversation about the various things that 8:24 are help when it comes to your guitar signal and how you can improve the quality of your sound and your tone via power. 8:32 I don't want to call them updates 'cause that's so that's an odd word to use. But improvements on equipment that can actually help the sound signal the cleaner. 8:43 And I will just speak to the three things you mentioned because we I think maybe do this slightly differently even though we make videos for the same channel. 8:51 I use an amp modular 90% of the time for videos, which is the Dream 65 from Universal Audio I use. So I use both a power conditioner, isolated power supply and then I also had the my home studio 9:07 rewired actually, so it's actually on a different circuit than the rest of my house as well, so that it's. 9:13 Like, OK, so we just went bougie. Yeah, it's isolated away from. 9:18 That was like, that was the thing when I moved in. I also wanted to add like LED lights to the room. 9:22 So I was like, while you're in there, what would it take to do this? And they're like, oh, not, not too much. 9:26 I was like, can we just do that too? So that was like the extra. 9:31 But I actually, for the sake of transparency, I don't actually do any post editing on any of my video demos. 9:38 I don't know if you knew that or noticed that, but my mine is just, I don't even add like compression. 9:44 It's just whatever the signal in a just make sure it's not peaking anywhere before I record it because that's obvious. 9:50 Like I try and hit the hardest. I will. 9:52 And then I just actually what you hear on my demos is exactly what it sounds like going in. There's nothing done in post. 9:58 Do you do post editing? This is. 10:00 News. I mean we. 10:01 Never talked. We weirdly never talked about this because we both just make our. 10:04 Videos in terms of post I do edit, but it's more of just master mutes on certain channels. So like and that's probably more. 10:12 It is not like when we know when I'm doing it, a no talking video like a first sounds kind of thing that there's no, there's no post on that at all. 10:19 Mine is just kind of leveling out, making sure because, well, I'll get to that in a second. But if I'm doing a review or talking, talking about a pedal on the video, I, I'm not muting my 10:31 guitar signal as I'm talking. I'm just, I'm, I'm just recording raw, both audios, right for my microphone and for the, the, the, 10:40 the pedal coming in. And So what I'll do is in post, I will mute the sections of both, both channels that aren't being 10:48 used at that time. So I, you know, when I'm, when I'm talking, I'm most likely muting my guitar signal when I'm talking 11:00 or at most, or at least, sorry, reducing the volume down. If I'm talking over like a pad or something, I'll pull the volume down just for audibility's sake on 11:07 the and, and and understanding what I'm saying. And then when I'm not talking, when I'm just playing, I'm muting my microphone, which doesn't have 11:16 any bearing on the guitar signals. No compression, though, will when I'm, when I, you know, I same thing. 11:21 I work on gain structure before I hit record but then in post I will bring the whole thing up like the whole entire volume of the of the final mix up just to maximize the loss that's going to happen 11:35 on YouTube. Yeah, that makes sense. 11:39 But there's no no EQ, no compression from my end. Yeah, that. 11:44 So I mean, we basically do it pretty similarly. I just, well, actually I'm trying to think, I haven't done many talking videos on 'cause you usually 11:53 do the technical deep dive on things, 'cause I'm like, I'll do the first sounds you do the technical. 11:58 But I don't remember actually for the one I did for the one I definitely did for the partner, the old but noise partner. 12:03 You talked on that one. Yeah, but I think my guitar is just humming in the background, so we'll have to, you know, we'll 12:10 have to. Go back and listen. 12:11 It depends if you I forget if you sent me that one to edit. If you sent me that to edit, I may have muted that section out. 12:17 There we go. I don't know here we go talking to talking, talking through behind the scenes on the on the podcast 12:23 hit again. But no, I think so back to the issue at hand. 12:27 I just wanted to talk through that because I was like, there are to answer the actual question, like there's a bunch of stuff Youtubers do and I think amp modlers is actually probably the chief 12:36 influence here of like reducing weird oddities that can happen and make your signal pristine in that situation. 12:42 But that being said, power is like probably one of the most finicky things in the guitar pedal community. 12:49 Amps. So I have lived in terrible apartments from the 1700s that have like no grounding. 12:56 I have lived in all sorts of weird situations with power. So I have, as a musician, been trying to figure out how to make things not sound weird and wonky. 13:06 And I mean, it's even like the kind of thing with Boniva tube amp. But I know this is like something that I've seen discussed in forums and talked about people, but 13:12 like, sometimes your amp just sounds bad on certain days and then you're like, you can't do anything about it. 13:18 You're like, I just today sounds bad or noisier than others. And I I actually before I had like a studio set up in my house. 13:25 Power conditioning to me is like probably one of the most important things to get the wonkiness out of your signal. 13:33 Because when it comes down to it, we're all, we're like guitar pedals are just all physics manipulation and electricity is the thing that it's manipulating. 13:41 And I mean, I've even been shocked by things before. I don't know if that's happened to you like I had. 13:46 Surprised. Like no. 13:48 No, like touched touched my guitar strings and like completed a circuit. So clean power for me. 13:55 I've always like carried around like one of the like Berman like power strips because like, yeah, especially playing in like different venues where I'm when we had James Wooten on talking about live 14:05 sound like sound like clean power is not a necessity to a venue existing either, right. It's, it's, it's just, you know, you kind of work what you get. 14:16 Sometimes you're in a basement that has, you know, wiring from the nuts. Sometimes you have somewhere where it was built last year and they have like perfectly clean power. 14:23 So I've always just brought in my live set up a power conditioner. And actually that that's something I started doing like after the time I got shocked actually, 14:31 'cause I was like, I don't really want to complete the circle of my guitar. Shade. 14:35 But for me, I think that that is in my in my like individual tone journey of reducing noise and weirdness. 14:43 The power conditioner is like chiefest among that. And then the isolated power supply, because I've gone through many different power supplies and if 14:53 you do not have truly isolated ones, your cabling and pedals will start to do weird things and you'll hear it. 15:00 Yeah, Well, let's let's get back to that part in a SEC. I just want to give my two cents on the like the power conditioner. 15:06 I, you know, I actually use that's, I have the, I think it's the SS6B, it's the firm and it's like the three by three. 15:12 It's the six 6 drops or six spots to plug things in. But it's, it's not a rack unit. 15:17 I don't have that ability. And where I'm at right now that I don't have a rack, instead of buying this massive $200 rack 15:24 system, I wanted to see what it would do. So I I just bought the six XS, the SSXB, whatever it is, it works. 15:29 It works great. I think also like. 15:32 The same one I have. I just looked it. 15:33 Up. Oh nice. 15:35 I also have a rack mount one, but I have this one on my OK. See again, you're bougie. 15:40 It's important to like going. Particular, not bougie. 15:43 Yeah, sure. Say what you want going back to the amp side, the amp side of it, like if you have real amps, yes, 15:49 you actually you want to have those on the same circuit as your pedal board. That's very important because otherwise you're gonna get 60 cycle hum no matter what too. 15:58 Yeah, and not the other podcast and YouTube channel that is good. The 60 cycle hum is actually that's a good one, but in terms of the actual the actual presence of a 16:08 sixty cycle hum is what one of the things you want to avoid. So you know, power conditioning absolutely great. 16:13 Make sure all of your gear is on it and on the same circuit. You can run an extension quarter of like a long IUC cable to your amp if you need. 16:19 That's no big deal. The other side of going back, actually going back another step further, but what amps, reel amps 16:25 will do when you're recording for a thing like YouTube, you're actually then introducing all of the natural acoustics of the room and the polar patterns and EQ responses of the microphone that you're 16:37 using there. That can actually make a big change in the sound that you're getting. 16:42 And so, you know, if you're in, I mean. Not to mention, not to mention with that too, is there certain amps that have like reverse polarity 16:51 as part of the way that their circuit works, right? So then you end up with like some just odd transient things you do happen to. 16:58 You do. And so all all of that contributes to the end, the ultimate sound that you're getting. 17:03 So just keep that in mind less about power on that end, but more about just kind of the transients that you're introducing into the signal because of just the other acoustic, acoustic properties that 17:13 are present. OK, let's skip over to the third one that you that we just touched the base on the isolated power 17:19 supplies for your pedals. Yeah, so. 17:22 Because this actually, I would, I would argue to interrupt you. I would argue that that I would I would tell somebody to get an isolated power supply before they 17:31 get a power conditioner if they could only get one. OK, I can actually attest to the fact that the other direction is true because I just tested this 17:38 the other day not knowing who to do this because I was building a pedal board for my partner and I was just using a one spot and Daisy chain on. 17:47 Pedals. Which is like the least isolated option, yes, you could possibly have. 17:52 And when I plugged it in to the wall without a power conditioner, there's a lot of noise, a lot of hum, a lot of like baseline, just white noise coming from plugging in even just like 1 pedal to 18:02 that. When I plugged into the power conditioner it was like nearly silent. 18:07 OK so not to completely refute your point but I just discovered this the other day. Now to be fair, everything I'm using is also like high end stuff like the pedals as well as even 18:19 like the power supply I was using. It wasn't one spot. 18:21 It was like the Striemann one that puts off like 2000 milliamps. So there's a lot of juice. 18:25 It's not isolated, but there's a lot of juice to pull from where you're not like running up against any limits. 18:30 OK, let's, let's, let's do this. Let's tell people they have to get both. 18:33 But the Furman 6B that we both use kind of like, I mean you have another one for your your rack. Yeah, the other one I have just to mention it, I have the Furman MX2 which or MMM 8X2 there's it's 18:47 actually got like 8 different slots and it's nice because they're spaced out for some of the bigger power supplies on that too, so. 18:55 OK, so you know, I'm, I'm looking both of them up on, on the online for people to just kind of get an idea. 19:00 The SS6B you can get for about $35 Amazon, Sweetwater, you know, and there's other brands that you can get too. 19:07 But Fermin is a very well trusted brand. It looks like the the MX2. 19:12 Is on sale right now, actually. Yeah, for that's. 19:15 Pretty good price. Really good price. 19:17 It's it's $85 in Sweetwater today. I mean, maybe not just today, but the date as a recording and looking online it is. 19:26 It's 85 down from like 1:25. So that's a really good deal. 19:29 Yeah, if you have to. Be fair, I just put it on my Sweetwater credit card so I don't know what it costs when I bought it 19:35 but. Oh, man. 19:36 So let's just do an aside on a more, you know, like an NBC more, You know, Paul and I don't condone the use of buying gear on credit. 19:45 If you're using your credit card wisely, that's a different thing, getting points and whatnot. But if you don't have the money to pay it off before you get interest there, how about that? 19:54 If you're accruing interest because of using a credit card on gear, we recommend just being patient. Yes, or just getting a Sweetwater credit card 'cause it's zero interest for like 3 years, so 0 20:05 interest for like 2 to three years really does. I mean, I am, I am on the fence. 20:10 I really don't need that in my life. So I'm gonna stick with my guns. 20:14 But Oh my goodness, you can get. I will say my, my one more pitch and this is not a Sweetwater, you know, we're not a Sweetwater 20:21 advertising agency. But I will say, but that's Sweetwater credit card if you get it around Black Friday when they start 20:27 to do stuff, sometimes they go as far as four years, 0 interest at that time of year, which is crazy. 20:33 And I've used that many times where I'm like, oh, this is the thing. I'll just wait till Black Friday when this will be 4 years, 0 interest. 20:39 Then I just get it and it's like $12.00 a month for something and that's the best. So amazing. 20:44 Just a little pitch for the Sweetwater credit card and how it's awesome so. OK, so everyone is going to sweetwater.com and slash the pedal collaborative. 20:52 I'm just kidding. We do have no affiliation with Sweetwater yet. 20:56 Sweetwater call. Us, yeah, listen to. 20:58 We're trying to we're trying to get people to buy power conditioners. Sweetwater algorithms, SEO influencers. 21:08 OK, so. You're just saying SEO. 21:10 That's how it works. That's how it works. 21:12 Let's see. So we we have about 10 minutes here before we have to wrap this one up. 21:18 So let's talk about isolated power supplies for your. Pedals, yes, yeah, we've been bouncing around a lot between. 21:23 Power. So you you mentioned the Daisy chain, which is not, which is actually the opposite of a of an 21:28 isolated power supply. An isolated power supply is essentially when every power drop on a power supply for pedals is 21:37 isolated from the other ones. It's as if you plugged each thing into its own individual power supply, as opposed to sucking from 21:46 one big source together. Yeah, and the problem with sucking one big source together, there's a couple of problems. 21:52 And a lot of the newer digital and especially multi effects pedals pull a lot of juice. They use a lot of milliamps, you know, like in excess of 300 milliamps. 22:05 And even then, I know we talked about this on one of the early episodes, but sometimes if you're using, especially some of the bigger digital ones, if it says it's rated for like 250, it's still 22:14 nice to give it like 3 to 500 just to be safe. Yep, but you also you can get some interplay and especially with fuss pedals and other other 22:26 distortion and OverDrive pedals going into yeah, at the beginning of your chain, if they're in the same Daisy chain as your digital effects, you also can bring in some unwanted noise and hum. 22:39 So definitely recommend everybody get, you know, if you're doing multiple pedals, get a or an isolated power supply. 22:47 You can get them with as little as I mean 5 taps and a tap or drop, as I'm calling them. Are are the plugs right power outputs? 22:59 Yes, and I think it's the probably the proper term. I don't. 23:02 Know oh, I we it's our podcast. We can say what we want. 23:05 Yeah, we're, I think people who've listened to us know that by now, but yes. Yeah, you can get them as many as 22 you can actually get, I mean you can get them where they can 23:17 Daisy chain together because they out they have outputs for another power supply, if that makes sense. 23:25 You know you can there's there's really no limit as to how many isolated power supply outputs you can have. 23:32 Some of them also give you options to do different voltages. So, you know, I mainly use right now a Fender engine room level 12, which gives me 12 individual 23:43 isolated outputs like 500 milliamps each. The only there's three things that it won't power and I'll get to that in a second. 23:48 But two of the taps have the ability to go from 9 volts to 12 volts to 18 Volt, which when you're doing some of the Keely pedals, when you're doing some of the OverDrive pedals, you actually can get 23:59 more headroom and less drive. It's like a combination of that when you're when you're giving it more power, obviously the 24:07 manufacturer has to approve that much power voltage. But all that to be said, the only things that I, I'm not powers, I'm not powering from my engine 24:17 room are my Stomp, my H-90 and then the neon Egg Planetarium. Because that is like this center +15 Volt monster thing. 24:26 I don't even know. Yeah, it's weird, but. 24:30 I use the same one but I do power my stomp because I have the current doubler for it. Oh, look at you. 24:36 Current doubler that it's also it changes the tip because it's weird on the stomp. Yes, so you could do that yeah you can use current doublers, you can use reverse polarity cables. 24:47 Those are all those are all available and you know a power supply that we haven't tried at least I haven't tried what I want to the walrus canvas stuff because their new one, the walrus canvas HP, it 25:00 was designed for things like the stomp. So it it has ridiculous amounts of power on board. 25:07 For I just want to get that one because they're so tiny. Yeah, and they're pretty. 25:12 They can fit on any wait, but I don't really care if it's under my pedal board. I don't care if it's pretty, but. 25:16 If you were to put it on top of your pedal board, Paul. Then I would be using valuable space where a pedal could go. 25:22 Oh. My goodness, I don't even know how to. 25:25 I don't even know how to talk to you anymore. Yeah. 25:28 Or how to answer that. But yeah, so in summation of this winding Rd. the the answer to the question of how you get excess 25:40 or get rid of excess noise. I think you said at the beginning threefold it's, you know, not necessarily using an amp, using an 25:45 amp modular, potentially cropping things and then your power. And in this case, I'm recommending a power conditioner and an isolated power supply. 25:53 That way you're not dealing with ground loops, you're not dealing with dirty power, you're not dealing with if somebody turns on if you if you live in an apartment, this is used to happen to me 26:01 all the time. Someone in the other unit would turn on their vacuum and all of a sudden my pedal board would be 26:06 humming with weird noise. Old apartments, weird stuff. 26:09 So an isolated power supply and a power conditioner will do wonders no matter where you're recording or what your setup is or where you're playing, because you're going to reduce as many outside 26:18 factors that are trying to attack your attack your poor guitar pedals and introduce weirdness. Squeals, hums, pops, hisses, cycling sounds. 26:27 Power conditioner, isolated power supply. That is the recipe for success. 26:32 There you go. And then when you have clean sound and a clean signal, then you can't hide your bad playing behind 26:39 that or my bad playing behind that. So you can actually work on your technique. 26:44 Yeah, you know, OverDrive and reverb were meant to hide those things, but not additional noise, so. I think that's the entire, like the entire creation of shoe gaze was. 26:54 Yeah, that's exactly. You're correct. 26:56 So yeah, I feel like we're gonna do more about this topic because honestly, I was thinking it through when you brought this up as a Bringing Back Signal Chain series and talking about power. 27:05 I feel like if I were to like, aggregate all the questions I ever received from people who'd like come to me with guitar pedal questions across my life and the Internet, power and how to power 27:16 different things is like pretty common actually. Because it is, it is confusing to like to the point of, you know, we mentioned different types of 27:24 pedals, different types of tips, reverse, negative, like there's all of these things that like it's not uncommon to see on different forums online somebody who like accidentally fries a pedal. 27:34 Because it's very confusing if you don't know what you're doing for the first time, yeah. So. 27:38 It is. That being said, if you ever have questions, feel free to drop them on this episode or chat us 27:44 somewhere, Instagram, whatever, because we've probably done the wrong thing. I know I've plugged things in wrong before and been really sad and not known something about a pedal 27:53 so learn from my mistakes and I don't know what to do all the time but I know what not to do. You know, I think like there's two smells that you just kind of once you once you smell it, you 28:03 can't get out of your head One, that's the smell of burning hair into the smell of plugging in a centre positive power supply into your centre negative pedal. 28:14 I know I've only done that once and it was devastating. A lot of the like whammies are weird with that too. 28:20 Well. Whammies are just weird. 28:23 Yeah, they're cool pedals, but they're very weird. But yeah, I guess on that. 28:26 Let's let's wrap up this episode. Let's do it at the, you know, at the people, people as they're thinking about whammies and burnt 28:33 hair. Let's Yeah. 28:34 Let's leave them with that. Yes. 28:36 So thank you all. We're going to be, I guess this is like the second to last episode of February. 28:43 The second to last episode of February we're. Going to be in March. 28:47 So. So that being said, I'll mention our, our, our fire relief thing, do it a couple more times here. 28:54 So we still have the LA fire relief donations going on. So for those of you who haven't heard about it or seen anything about it currently, any purchase on 29:05 our Patreon of a preset, preset pack, we have specific ones that are created for this. All donations through February or all purchases through February are being donated to the Airbnb LA 29:15 211 Fire Relief Fund for housing for those who are affected by the fires. So if you, if you're looking at a preset pack that we have up there for the Maris pedals, go ahead 29:26 and buy one because it goes to a good cause for this month, not just to us continuing to build more presets. 29:33 It goes to it goes to something else this month. And on that note too, I'll just mention a little plug our Patreon, we are gonna be adding new. 29:42 So the forthcoming Maris pedal we talked about, we're probably gonna make presets for assuming is what we think. 29:46 It is. We will. 29:47 If it's the Enzo X, it's gonna happen. So there'll be more presets beyond just the Mercury X and LV X, but in addition to that, we are 29:53 gonna be doing some things for the Line 6 HX Stomp. That's probably Next up after the Maris pedals few Shriman Timeline preset packs for those of you 30:03 who have not made the the jump to the LVX world and eventually once we wrap our heads around it, some even tied age 90 things, but. 30:11 That one figure out how to use it. Yeah, we're, we're Alan's figuring it out. 30:15 I haven't played with it yet. We're going to figure. 30:17 It out. It's probably a pall brain thing. 30:19 It might be. Well, we, I feel like we've mentioned that before, but so just just with the plug, like for those of 30:25 you who do support us, we really appreciate it. We love making things and love that you're part of this. 30:29 There's more to come. For those of you who maybe felt left out because you can buy an LVX or a Mercury X and you're like, 30:34 I wish I could buy a preset pack that Alan or Paul made. Well, guess what? 30:38 Guess what you can. Coming soon. 30:40 It's your lucky time of the. So yes, we'll probably be introducing a lot more of that coming up here. 30:46 So anyhow, have a good week and we'll talk to you all soon. All right, everybody take care. 30:52 Bye. Music. © 2025 Spotify AB Legal Privacy Cookies